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Welcome to the Punjabi wikipedia and thanks for your contributions. Please add much to articles you created/creating or first develope them in your user space, for example: User:Zarienah/ਸਨਾਤਮ ਕੌਰ and so on. After developing an article you can move it to main space. Thanks again. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੬:੫੬, ੧੦ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Sorry I didn't understand at first, but now I do thanks for informing and welcoming me! >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੮:੨੫, ੨੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ[ਸੋਧੋ]

Sat Sri Akaal! Glad to see you working hard on the draft. I want to discuss some point about the ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ. First of all, want to suggest one thing that please prefer creating template as the complex format may be hard to handle. You can create templates with the same format for different topics like Template:WikipediaSister etc. this method 'll also have other benefits like editors can edit them to make effect on the I want to discuss some point about the ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ. So we can protected the I want to discuss some point about the ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ as it couldn't be directly vandalised. Templates could be semi protected and thus can be edited by the auto-confirmed editors. It doesn't mean the all you did till now for the draft gone in vain, no, you can create templates by copy-paste. Have more but first wanna hear from you. Thank you. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੫:੨੬, ੨੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

I am finding it hard to catch on to what you are saying. The draft if from the Afrikaans wiki main page and I'm sure a proper translated one will help this wiki a lot and I will not let that work go in vain. If you are saying somthing else then please clarify or even better go to the draft and change what you feel is wrong, as I said before anyone can feel free to jump in and help. Thanks for helping !! >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੭:੦੭, ੨੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I mean you can create a template of all your draft (when ready) so when we place that template name on the main page all the data the template has, 'll appear on the page, thus we not need to write much on the main page, all we need 'll be to place the template name surrounded by four braces. For example you can check Template:WikipediaSister, on the main page we just placed {{WikipediaSisters}} and the page show all the data in it (I think you know about templates). I must say please create templates accordingly.
Your drafts looks cool, thanks for your hard work. And what about excluding the "search" part as the wiki automatically have it on every page. And also wanna say that as your draft have no sections, I can't edit it as it exceeded my device's only 5000 characters edit window support. I mean I can handle only 5000 chars at a time. You excluded "no edit section" behavior switch, thanks but I still can't edit. Could you please break it into sections, so that I can help? --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੭:੩੯, ੨੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I'll break this up into sections so you can help, hope it works >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੭:੫੫, ੨੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Thanks and I've made some suggestions in my last comment please reply what you think. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੮:੦੧, ੨੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I have a problem with the sister projects because I can't find a way to export it into a template, it looks like it will only work if it is connected to the chain on the page >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੮:੦੫, ੨੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Sorry, didn't get you. Could you please explain? --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੧:੨੬, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
On the draft, the "sister projects" cant be taken into the {{WikipediaSisters}} template because it is part of the chain which the draft uses. hope you understand now >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੧:੧੮, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Not properly, (really sorry), can you use examples? Also, seen you checked creating templates. Wanna suggest you to not to be so quick and also suggest you to develop them, too, using draft(s). --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੩:੧੩, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Ok will do in future, once I have done them, please check them for spelling and grammar mistakes and link them to the appropriate categories. Thanks >>Zarienah (talk) ੨੦:੨੪, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Of course and you've not divided the draft into sections yet! 'll you please? --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੧:੪੭, ੨੫ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Please go check, I have done it. >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੧:੨੧, ੨੫ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
you might also want to check ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ/ਵਿਸ਼ਾ/ਜੁਗਰਾਫੀਆ and all the others, because most of the words are new to my vocab and might be misspelled etc. >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੮:੨੦, ੨੫ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Had a quick look and didn't understand for which you used ਓਸ਼ੇਨੀਆ? --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੦:੫੦, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
The term ਓਸ਼ੇਨੀਆ (Oceania) is used to denote a continent comprising Australia and proximate islands. I don't know about any existing corresponding Punjabi term.--Babanwalia (talk) ੦੫:੦੧, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

ਜਾਰੀ[ਸੋਧੋ]

Oh yes! Babanwalia. Wiki can continue using the term untill any Punjabi one appears to be noticed. --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੯:੨੮, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Help[ਸੋਧੋ]

Could you please tell me the method for creating new templates. I intend to add many of them in the pages I make like flags, demonyms etc. I want to make those in unadulterated Punjabi. Thanks in advance!!--Babanwalia (talk) ੧੩:੩੫, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Do you mean like an infobox template, flag template or something like that?
for „ਓਸ਼ੇਨੀਆ“ is it that you want to create something like the template {{Infobox Continent}}
you also might want to have a look at en:Help:Template >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੩:੪੫, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Actually I want to create it for countries with flag icons etc. like ਫਰਮਾ:ਦੇਸ਼ ਅੰਕੜੇ used on Oceania. For many countries it is not present. I want to add for all the nations. Plus I'd be grateful if you tell how do ppl here edit the blank maps of various countries to write in Punjabi on them?? Thnx--Babanwalia (talk) ੧੪:੩੪, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
As of editing blank maps, I wanna say that the maps showing areas only in some color should not be edited as did with File:ਪਾਕਤਿਆ.png, because they are well identified by names and for such cases we shouldn't unnecessarily duplicates the commons' files and should be fetched from commons but if there is anything written on a map in a foreign language that may be edited with translation. Hope I succeeded in making my point understand! --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੪:੫੭, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
for ਫਰਮਾ:ਦੇਸ਼ ਅੰਕੜੇ I think you will have to manually use wiki tables and pictures, templates are usually the infoboxes, the series that the article is part of, flags, and other repeated information. If you want to create a template search for it in the search box, if it does not have any results, it will allow you to create it. >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੫:੦੧, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
And please consider my previous comment relating file editing. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੫:੧੦, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
If we are going to fetch images from commons then we will need to update our templates to label and color in the maps properly >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੫:੧੪, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
sorry, didn't get you! But wanna say not "if-we-are-going-to", "we-must" as the commons; the central media repository, is for this purpose only and better maintained against copyright violation or any other problems; in every sense. And, please explain your last point. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੫:੨੯, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
You said "if there is anything written on a map in a foreign language that may be edited with translation". That's what I'm asking. How would I be able to translate on the map itself? plz reply.--Babanwalia (talk) ੧੫:੫੨, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
You can simply save it onto your computer and edit it there, once translated you can upload it, or you just edit it like you did in „ਓਸ਼ੇਨੀਆ“ >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੬:੫੫, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Thnx a lot Zarienah :))--Babanwalia (talk) ੧੭:੩੧, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

New pages[ਸੋਧੋ]

I've a confusion, please tell me, what you gonna do with the pages you are creating with prefix "ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫਾ/". --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੨:੪੫, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Which pages? please specify, I have only created templates for the the main page under that prefix --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੨:੫੬, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I'm talking about ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ/ਵਿਸ਼ਾ/ਬੋਲੀ, ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ/ਵਿਸ਼ਾ/ਤਕਨਾਲੋਜੀ, ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ/ਵਿਸ਼ਾ/ਵਿਗਿਆਨ and ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ/ਵਿਸ਼ਾ/ਲੇਖ ਖੋਜ (May be I've missed one or more). --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੫:੫੯, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
those are the categories for the main page. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੬:੦੧, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
They're not created in the category name space and moreover I don't think any categories needed. And wanna tell you that the wiki is yet orphan but you're creating pages (specially the draft) with lots of red links that have to be created and some of them not even needed, I found. You're work is a bit advanced level according to the wiki's stage. But even thank you for your hard work and request you to reduce the draft in size; I mean, by eliminating unwanted/unnecessary red links. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੬:੧੧, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
there are but many wiki main pages with plenty red links, so it won't hurt to have them on ours, and I'm sure we will fill them up soon. Please leave the categories the way they are or correct the spellings.
and if the wiki is yet an orphan it will remain so until we change that, and that's what should happen, take the afrikaans wiki as an example, they have such a small community, there's only like 3 very active contributes and yet their wiki is blossoming, we can do the same! --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੭:੦੨, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Notice prior deletion[ਸੋਧੋ]

Sat Sri Akaal! Thanks for your contributions. I've noticed you creating some duplicates of existing pages. You created {{ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫਾ/ਹੋਰ ਬੋਲੀਆਂ}} duplicating {{Wikipedialang}} and {{ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀਸੰਦੂਕ ਦੇਸ਼}} duplicating {{Infobox Country}}. Sorry but I've to delete them. You should improve existings instead of creating duplicates. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੭:੫੩, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Sat Sri Akaal! if I was to update {{Wikipedialang}}, it would mess up the current main page, once the draft is moved to the main page then I will redirect it to the new one. You can redirect {{Infobox Country}} to {{ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀਸੰਦੂਕ ਦੇਸ਼}}, the draft I'll do in my user space. Deletions are not needed. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੮:੨੨, ੨੭ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
What if it affects the current main page, we all are trying to make it better and the main page, I think, should be first of them. And you can better improve infobox country without creating duplicate. It's better to move the same template to Punjabi name when improved. Sorry! but being an admin I must not allowed a duplication, more over unnecessary, it is just like requesting to change a user name having only 2-3 edits. Please improve the originals. And, why to redirect the original to your new (pure duplicate)? Your page even used the original's /doc subpage. But I may have better than deletion. --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੧:੦੬, ੨੮ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I've moved the first to your user space and redirected the other to original. Hope, being a good wiki editor, you'll understand and justify the change. --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੧:੧੫, ੨੮ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Ohk, you moved them into my userspace, thanks --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੦੫:੩੩, ੨੮ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Help maintaining the right format[ਸੋਧੋ]

Sat Sri Akaal. I need your help maintaining the right format to answer on a talk page. I requesting you as my device not support larger edit window (told you earlier). Please revert Guglani's this edit manually on his current talk page. This is confusing readers a lot as the replies added in between the message without signatures. It'll be taken as same questioning a answering himself. I've asked Guglani about this here, but he didn't replied/acted upon; may be he's inactive since. Now, you're requested to help me doing this, Not by adding his signatures followed by his replies but by moving his replies to his actual reply below. Moreover you better know the correct format to answer a talk. So please help me. --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੩:੪੦, ੩੦ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

ਸਹੀ ਦਾ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨY I'm on it --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੫:੦੧, ੩੦ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
It's done but looks more confusing, maybe it would be better to have just signed his messages off? --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੫:੧੭, ੩੦ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Thanks a lot, Zarienah! It may still confusing but would be lesser. Replying in between never makes a sense (not a wiki talkpage format) even if they are signed. But, thanks for your efforts. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੫:੪੪, ੩੦ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Thanx Zarienah[ਸੋਧੋ]

Thanx for telling about the Template. Can you please tell me where i can check if a Template exists or not ??? --Satdeep gill (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੦੯:੧੦, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

you're welcome, I'm glad to see you now engaging in more constructive template work, but please don't just import templates from the English Wikipedia without translation, rather import them into your user space instead of directly in the main template space, also once again I ask you to also translate the input for the template, not just the output, thanks --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੦੯:੧੭, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Help ੨[ਸੋਧੋ]

Hallo Zairenah. Kunt u mijn oude overlegpagina verplaatsen naar mijn nieuwe overlegpagina? Hartelijk dank! §§VibhasKSਚਰਚਾ ੧੦:੪੧, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

ਸਹੀ ਦਾ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨY Uitgevoerd, --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੧:੩੩, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
What it's about? --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੨:੪੦, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
He wants his previous talk page to be moved into the space of his new account. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੨:੪੫, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Duplicating[ਸੋਧੋ]

Help me alsjeblieft, teri buttar zegt dat ਸੰਦਰਭ is geen Punjabi woord, maar het is! Sla het tegen verwijderen. §§VibhasKSਚਰਚਾ ੧੩:੨੫, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Please keep the right format for talk, and also my Dutch is only on level 2 and, other users can't understand, please use English instead. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੩:੪੧, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
We don't accept duplicates in any of the namespaces. As not being a native Punjabi you should learn more and make yourself familiar with the Punjabi terms here. Please be bold and don't create duplicates just for personal use as the wiki is not for anyone's personal. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੩:੪੮, ੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

You've got an email[ਸੋਧੋ]

In case you didn't noticed, you've got an email, please check. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੪:੨੩, ੫ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Noted, replying soon. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੪:੪੯, ੫ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Page about ਸਨਾਤਮ ਕੌਰ not right.[ਸੋਧੋ]

The language used in ਸਿੱਖਿਆ ਅਤੇ ਕੰਮ of this page is not correct. Please act accordingly. --Satdeep gill (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੧੭:੦੪, ੫ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

As you will note my punjabi level is only at 2 and had you read the notice on my user page you would have known I can't do anything about it, otherwise you might have just put this here to get back at me for all my actions that I've taken against you. Moreover you even edited the section on my user page that clearly stated that I am just learning Punjabi and only speak little, so clearly you put this here as a attempt to get back at me. Please don't promote such silly childish acts on the wiki. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੭:੩੫, ੫ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Now i get it. You don't know much about Punjabi so you put all your focus on punctuation and other things. And yes i am child . I am just 19 years old. --Satdeep gill (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੦੦:੧੦, ੬ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I wasn't asking if you were a child and neither did I want to know your age? Please fix yourself about saying if I know much about punjabi, because I know lots about punjabi, just don't know lots of punjabi. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੨੧:੪੧, ੬ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Work on other templates[ਸੋਧੋ]

SSA...Seeing how you showed interest in template organization, Zarienah Ji, could you help me translate the template Taxobox (somewhat urgent since the current template shows many things in English which is not good) by directing me to French version and then bringing it on this wiki. Thanks:)--Babanwalia (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੦੪:੪੯, ੮ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

What's the French matter here? Can't you translate it from English version that's here. And rather than Punjabi redirect you should redirect the English title to Punjabi one. Anyway, what's the French matter? --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੫:੫੮, ੮ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case[ਸੋਧੋ]

Sat Sri Akaal! I seen the discussion is not coming to an end and only few users attended it on the community portal and as being the active admin, think it to be comes to an end but as of the little community, I personally think, we shouldn't block both of them. We should not apply the policies very hard on users, right now. Which one you suggest to be blocked? --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੨:੦੫, ੧੪ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Sat Sri Akaal! I think we need to go and ask another meta authority to help solve this matter --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੪:੩੭, ੧੪ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Please, I'll also be there. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੪:੫੪, ੧੪ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Adminship renewal discussion[ਸੋਧੋ]

Hello Zarienah! I've seen you participating in the adminship renewal discussion. You may also like to have a look here regarding the same. Thanks. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੫:੪੭, ੨੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Thanks for showing me that comment, I think its best to discuss it with our community on our wiki's community portal, could you please add your comment there so that other users can also see, thanks. & Best wishes! --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੫:੫੮, ੨੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I didn't get you Zarienah, sorry. Please make me understand, being clear, which comment you're talking should be added and where? --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੬:੦੮, ੨੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
I mean you should add your views here so that other users can see your views too. --Zarienah ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤਯੋਗਦਾਨ ੧੬:੨੩, ੨੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)
Got it Zarienah and done. :-) Can you please comment on the requests on meta here! Thanks. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੬:੪੭, ੨੨ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

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Sat Sri Akaal and thanks for your contributions! One of the long time occuring bug has been filed at bugzilla and needs your voting. Please have a look here and support as bugzilla needs consensus to fix it. So please support here and also vote on the bugzila so that the problem can be fixed as soon as possible. Thanks a lot. --tari buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੫:੨੯, ੨੫ ਅਕਤੂਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)