ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰ ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ:Itar buttar/Archive 5

Please don't advocate your personal feelings

• „For thousand of years it was a place of sun worship for the Hindus because the sun can be seen here earlier and sets here later due to its height. It became a place of worship for Hindus. Tilla Jogian in Punjabi means the Hill of Saints.“

This is a fact that shows why Devanagari Punjabi belongs in the article. Please be educated about the topic before adding your personal feelings to it. Thanks, --Zarienah ^{ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ • ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} ੧੮:੪੮, ੧੫ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

hello, not devnagri Punjabi you're misguided at extreme level. Let this matter go to hell. As by every step and issue I'm understanding you better, add it but calling Hindi not Punjabi. --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੮:੫੫, ੧੫ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

You are racist --ਰਾਜੇਂਦਰਾ ਸਿੰਘ (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੧੯:੧੦, ੧੫ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

What an ignorant comment

//Let this matter go to hell//

itar buttar, you can hate the Hindus and our script as much as you like, you can even damn it to hell. BUT YOU CANT TAKE IT AWAY FROM US!! In Punjab's neighbouring states, Delhi, Jammu, the people there don't use Gurmukhi. They use DEVANAGARI. It just goes to show how ignorant you are.

You think Punjabi is just for Muslims and Sikhs and the Hindus can go to hell? Such activism should not be allowed here and such blasphemy should be removed

Just keep your own views to yourself and stop being a racist, ignorant fool!

§§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੨੧:੧੮, ੧੫ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

You fail to prove that devnagri is used for writing Punjabi so using the wiki as much as possible to add the phrase "devnagri punjabi" so that if no one object, in the future you can say, "here is the proof" but this is the totally wrong use of the wiki, prove it not beat the bushes. And please stop using such hatred words as I didn't objected the use of Hindi for related articles here as meena kumari etc. don't make yours views on others statements and please don't start dragging religious matters here as language is always above religions, in my opinion. Many Punjabi Hindus love their mother tongue more than any other. So leave the matter and stop spreading hate and personal views on the wiki. You're I think, was quite good for some time and as far as I know repaired your tone very much but he's going worst and had been given the final warning. --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੧:੦੮, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

revise your comment //Let this matter go to hell//, you need to repair your tone here as you are saying that Hindus should take their system to hell. Please note that the location today may not use Devanagari punjabi, but historically it is noted. Itar buttar, it is historically noted to the location, not presently noted. :) hope I made myself understood to you §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੧:੨੦, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

you fail to understand me and to prove that devnagri is ever used to write punjabi. --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੩:੨੯, ੧੮ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

you've made a bigger failure to read the comment I gave you in the next section. §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੭:੪੬, ੧੮ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Insulting the native speakers by telling them to go learn their own mother toungue

• //Plz learn the difference between ਬਿਹਾਰੀ and ਸਿਹਾਰੀ as where it is right you denied it as for ਟਿੱਲਾਂ ਜੋਗੀਆਂ and using where it's wrong please learn it//

You're telling people to learn their own mother toungue just to suite your way of spellings. You want others to repair their tone but you yourself have the worst out of all. The same thing goes for you telling me “not to apply nl.wiki's policies here”, when I was just translating and meanwhile you are by far way worsly known to apply English Wikipedia policies to attack new users. You are quick to send stupid warnings to people meanwhile you are committing it even more. Verify yourself, your tone, and your hypocrisy before saying such stupid things to others. Revise also all the useless bindis that you are using just to look high class and clever, my friend it just makes you look more uneducated and dumb. so why don't you plz learn how punjabi people in the eastern side spell things §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੧:੫੭, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

okay leave your tone this time, and come to the point thatthe bihari and sihari matter, I think soon gonna be correct by others. So leave it and you're just dragging things in the field where they're not, when I used hell word for Hindus no, just for the issue so don't attack on me and i'm using en.wiki policies is your views fixed on me if you just translated I just exampled. How cleverly you everytime got escaped from confict blaming others. Do I ever used the uncivil words against you or others if there is one or two they are just after a long time others using them for me and as I seen they don't warned against those words I used taking them to be some okay as if they're not others may notified about there bad use. Hope you got me. And you're totally wrong and I feel hurt when you say you have hindi. Come into my personal life and you'll learn do I hate or love (calling for personal life bcz as one may hate or love only after his/her personal life) :-) --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੨:੧੧, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

if you want I can bullet point a list of uncivil quotes from you? §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੨:੧੯, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

What about yours? Don't forget about yours excessive. Thanks and shut this nonsense off and let the wiki grow. --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੨:੨੪, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

and what about the fact about you policing everybody's every single little edit, do you honestly think that's helping anything grow. I saw how you cleverly changed the title and divulged the topic with your rubbish. Get to the point why you are insulting other wikipedias here that speak punjabi as their mother toungue by telling them to go learn their own language? Why are you shutting me up in the name of growth when you are discouraging the native speakers? What hypocrisy! §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੨:੩੩, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

if I can be told to learn, why not others if you're honestly such neutral why didn't you ask others for the same. I'm never insulting but I'm being taking wrong bcz of the previous personal views. Come to me 'll show you about my hate or love. My insult by others and use of hatred words on me is ignored by you, and returning the a litte bit from them by me is accusable? Honestly say, do you neutral what you're saying loudly to be? --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੨:੪੩, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

I Havant found a user here that is as hostile like you? My question is why are you doing this and insulting the users and then you ask for growth, for growth you need other native punjabi speakers to help you but you instead are insulting them? Don't change the topic and my words, this is my question. This is an issue that I want to enquire with you, I don't want to fight, I want to know why you are resorting to such hypocrisy? §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੨:੪੯, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Look oh world, how cleverly he changed the topic. My insult isnot insult? --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੨:੫੬, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

you're wrong, you first changed the title of this discussion and now changing the topic. I saw you are haggling with other users to help grow the wiki but you fail to see all the native speaking punjabis here that are helping you, you are telling them to go learn their own language? This is what confuses me? And this is what I am enquiring.§§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੩:੦੭, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Guys, what about Sihari and Bihari????ਸੰਧੂ | kJ (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ)

hey kooljeet! We're not actually discussing them, I'm enquiring why Itar buttar is insulting the native speakers of punjabi by telling them to go learn their own language!§§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੩:੧੩, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Alright!!! carry on mere veereo...loll--ਸੰਧੂ | kJ (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੦੩:੧੭, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

y'all two need to stop fighting and make friends now and help each other. We all are human and make mistakes. I've done stupid things here, Itar butter has done stupid things here, vibhas has done stupid things here but we are all humans. We all did stupid things he so Please y'all stop fighting already! --Zarienah ^{ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ • ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} ੦੩:੩੨, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

cont.

Stop this nonsense, being clever in accusing users. If a mistake i7 not corrected by learning then how? And you being clever think that "others, by seeing such words like insulting, hypocrisy etc. on one's talk page, think that this wikipedian is really doing what issaid" but my dear friend Wiki done its best recording history so get a neutral one here and let them examine. Why raising this from your personal views, there are many other users just ask them, Satdeep, Babanwali, CharanGill ji and more when did I insulted them? Just ask or stop this nonsense. I do not want to discuss this with such a clever and moreover the one who insulted me everytime. So get a neutral one here to examine the thing not they'll decide on that disgracing words used by you cleverly to down one's position by making them involve in such accuses and more. I now understanded your intention. So stop this and don't edit my talk page and a get an authority here as I greatly trust them bcz after all they given the authority by some reason and you're trying tohide the matter bcz you fail to prove that Devnagri is ever used for writing Punjabi even in India and giving false info that it's used in Pak? Stop beating around the bushes I'll not reply as I understanded your intention,now. Please let me and others contribute to the wiki. --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੦੩:੪੬, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

asking for civility and calling the comment nonsense just goesto show your hypocrisy, the dialect they speak in Jammu I cantell you is generally dogri and it isa dialect of punjabi, several books, poems have been published in this dialect in Devanagari. The Hindu punjabis mainly turn to Hindi but the fact that some use it is unmoved and you have no right to damn it to hell. I defiantly won't use Devanagari here but it is defiantlyused. You have also associated Hindus with Hindi, did it of four to you that many Sikhs, Christians, Muslims, Jains, Parsis, and Buddhists use Hindi? Hindus also use Bengali, Kashmiri, Rajasthani, Gujarati, Tamil, telegu,oria and I can go on and on. So assuming that Hindi is the native or notable languages to Hindus isa very ignorant one. Please try to learn §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੦੫:੦੩, ੧੬ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Implying vandalism

Hello, I see you are categorising some of my points and headings on your talk page as vandalism, please see what it really means, here's the English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism and here's Urdu http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%A8%DB%81:%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A8_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C . I hope it will help you understand what vandalism is. §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੮:੨੪, ੧੮ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

you have lately posted many insulting comments to my talk page, your latest edition to my page „Please do something constructive“ is quite insulting and uncivil, I'm sure many will agree. --Zarienah ^{ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ • ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} ੧੮:੫੭, ੧੮ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Vandalising page

Even when http://pa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8C%E0%A8%82%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0_%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%B1%E0%A8%B2-%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4:Paramdeep_singh_ji&action=history removed his message on his own talk page, it was reverted as vandalism. Now please stop and try to learn please. §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੯:੦੦, ੧੮ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Wrongly implying that insults

Please do not imply when I'm trying to inform you nicely, also just to help you see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insult another dictionary defenition to help you with what I'm trying to say. Please stop removing because you are calling me a harasser and insulter when you are actually insulting me by claiming this. §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੯:੦੦, ੧੮ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Please stop nonsense

Please stop mischeiving and harassing all my editings and please leave me alone so stop challenging my editing when I removed meaningless words. —Sonia [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੨੧ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨

plz repair your tone and your attitude. Do you know what nonsense is? I just ask you to discuss it with the community first as the words you're using not used in Punjabi. --itar buttar [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੧੨:੪੩, ੨੧ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

why must repair?

yes I know exactly what nonsense is. It is what you are do.

You repair and stop do mischief on pages.

Plz you know not that and you are not the punjabi court judge.

Plz scan and show ur ID if bcuz can see very well you are lying.

—Sonia [ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ] ੨੧ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨

Just adding higher words from Sanskrit is not a problem itar buttar, please try to learn that you need to overcome your hate for Sanskrit and embrace the fact that it has a hervy influence in Eastern Punjbai. Nobody will stop you from going to the western Punjabi Wikipedia because I'm sure they will love you words and contributions but not here, please not here. §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੨:੩੭, ੨੨ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Your language activism

You are creating heaps and heaps of rubbish meaningless words with so many bindis from Urdu and Persian, here and even at translatewiki, please I request you to go to the Western punjabi wiki and do work and translations there as you are very unfamiliar with the ones used in Eastern Punjabi. Thanks §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੫:੩੩, ੨੨ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Please actually open up commuication and try to learn how we spell things in the Eastern side of Punjab instead of going on like a radical hating Hindi and Sanskrit. I see you have gone as far on translatewiki to call Hindi a "Rubbish Language". You may hate Hindi and hindi speaking people and by your attitude towards the Hindus use of Punjabi you probbaly hate Hindus too and it may be the root of your hate for Sanskit and Hindi. Please know that your Sikh greeting has Sanskrit origins not perso-arab ones "Sat Sri Akaal". I request you to stop adding rubbish words here and at translatewiki and the same goes with your propostrous use of Bindis. I don't see any other user using the Bindi the way you do so please stop and try to learn eastern punjabi in a way so that this wiki and its users can benefit or rather do not waste your time and see the Western Punjabi wikipedia as I'm sure you will be loved and your word choice will be applicable there. But not here, if I'm just using a Sanskritic word you falsely call it "Rubbish Hindi", please stop and see how close Hindi and Punjabi are. Other users have even pointed out to you that Hindi and Punjabi sound the same at times. It has been said to you many times by many users please stop your nonsense §§VibhasKS_ਚਰਚਾ ੧੬:੨੯, ੨੩ ਨਵੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)