ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ:ਸੱਥ/ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਚਰਚਾ 3

ਇਹ ਪਿਛਲੀ ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ ਦਾ ਸਾਂਭਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਰਿਕਾਰਡ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਸਫ਼ੇ ਵਿਚ ਫੇਰ-ਬਦਲ ਨਾ ਕਰੋ। ਜੇ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਨਵੀਂ ਚਰਚਾ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਕਰਨਾ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ਹੋ ਜਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਚਾਰਚਾ ਨੂੰ ਫੇਰ ਤੋਂ ਛੇੜਨਾ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ਹੋ ਤਾਂ ਮੌਜੂਦਾ ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ ਸਫ਼ੇ ’ਤੇ ਲਿਖੋ।

visual sequence of community portal

Hi Amir , can you change the visual sequence order, so that latest revised para or section appears on top.i think it will facilitate dialogue--Guglani (talk) ੦੮:੧੪, ੨ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Help link for Input Method Transliteration

Hi Amir , Can you so write help link in situation as shown in screen shot http://awesomescreenshot.com/040c40s01 help goes to link ਮਦਦ:Typing--Guglani (talk) ੧੨:੨੧, ੨ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Announcements for India Program - July/August 2012

Dear all, Here are a few updates and announcements regarding the India Program team:

Hisham Mundol, heading the India Program operations in India is stepping down from the position. Here is Hisham's note of farewell on the mailing list.
As per the announcement made by Barry Newstead, Chief Global Development Officer at the Wikimedia Foundation, WMF will be giving Center for Internet and Society (CIS), Bangalore a grant for two years to expand their Access to Knowledge (A2K) program.
As per the announcement made by Sunil Abraham, heading CIS, Bangalore - CIS will be hiring all the existing consultants of India Program from September 1, 2012.
CIS invites volunteers for the selection committee to recruit a Program Director for the A2K program. More details can be found here.
CIS also announces a vacancy for the post of Program Director - A2K program. More details about the position can be found here.

For further questions or clarifications, you can write on my talk page or please feel free to mail me at nraval@wikimedia.org. Thank you. Noopur28 (talk) ੧੦:੨੬, ੩ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Translation rally!

Hello!

A translation rally begins in a few hours in http://www.translatewiki.net !

There are more than a 1000 MediaWiki messages that must be translated to Punjabi, and now is an excellent opportunity to do that: If you translate at least 500 messages from August 8 until August 18, you will receive a share of a prize of 1000 euros. And if you translate more than anybody else who participates, you will receive a bonus.

For the full information about the rally, read the page translatewiki:Project:Rally-2012-08 carefully.

Thank you and good luck! --ਅਮੀਰ ਏਲਿਸ਼ਾ ਅਹਰੋਨਿ / Amir E. Aharoni (talk) ੨੦:੦੬, ੮ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

hmmm, I'm interested. And please check my recent 3-4 translations, are that the messages the rally is about. And tell me more, do I need to register anywhere specially for participating in the rally or just continue what I'm doing earliar? I mean any particular statement I've to made to the responsible person(s) of the rally that I'm participating please count me in? (2 questions). Tari Buttar ੦੧:੪੭, ੯ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

You don't have to register in the beginning. Just continue what you started.

In the end you'll have to sing up at translatewiki:Project:Rally-2012-08. Please read that page carefully. It gives all the important information. --ਅਮੀਰ ਏਲਿਸ਼ਾ ਅਹਰੋਨਿ / Amir E. Aharoni (talk) ੦੪:੧੪, ੯ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

What about my translations of messages done recently before 8 august or in july will it be counted--Guglani (talk) ੧੦:੨੧, ੯ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

No, only translations from today until August 18 are counted for this rally. A rally is limited in time. --ਅਮੀਰ ਏਲਿਸ਼ਾ ਅਹਰੋਨਿ / Amir E. Aharoni (talk) ੧੦:੨੪, ੯ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

ਮਦਦ link on Main Page

on clicking this link http://awesomescreenshot.com/06bctpk2f earlier we got ਮਦਦ:ਸਮੱਗਰੀ From this some help for unicode use was possible to see.Till a proper Help page in punjabi is written i think it was serving some limited purpose.Why not restore earlier version because present version leads to an empty page? Can someone help me to find log for this recent change .--Guglani (talk) ੧੨:੪੭, ੧੦ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

I'm not sure why did it change, but you can simply create the page ਮਦਦ:ਚੀਜ਼ਾਂ and put a link to ਮਦਦ:ਸਮੱਗਰੀ there. Or even a redirect, like this:

#REDIRECT [[ਮਦਦ:ਸਮੱਗਰੀ]]

I hope that it helps. --ਅਮੀਰ ਏਲਿਸ਼ਾ ਅਹਰੋਨਿ / Amir E. Aharoni (talk) ੧੨:੫੫, ੧੦ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

More opportunities for you to access free research databases

The quest to get editors free access to the sources they need is gaining momentum.

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You might also be interested in the idea to create a central Wikipedia Library where approved editors would have access to all participating resource donors. Add your feedback to the Community Fellowship proposal. Apologies for the English message (translate here). Go sign up :) --Ocaasi (talk) ੦੨:੨੨, ੧੬ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

infancy period of punjabi wikipedia

There are very less number of editors in punjabi wikipedia.They need to be encouraged to give more articles or add substance to articles. Experienced editors should have broad outlook to encourage new editors and should have patience so that articles come up.And also they should develop a template to give notice to increase article if they themselves do not have time to expand it. Article on My school is a common topic to give to school going children.Rome cannot be built in one day experienced users on punjabi are very few and in my opinion they should use restraint on deleting an article on reason for being a small article--Guglani (talk) ੧੪:੩੧, ੧੭ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Problem with Gurmukhi Numeral Figures

We are having a great problem while putting dates in Gurmukhi for e.g. If we want 1931 in Gurmukhi then some figures overlap each other and we end up seeing ੧੯੩੧ . For this I think we should make a rule of using only Roman Numerals or I think some problem is supposed to be solved at the software level or something. --Satdeep gill (talk) ੦੩:੪੯, ੧੮ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

please see above discussion on problem with ੯ , overlapping of numerals problem may be same and solution is change text font to saab option and then see the dispaly(please check and confirm).But at the same time , issue of using roman numerals is an overall issue ,in use of numerals in gurmukhi fonts and needs discussion at much higher platforms ,universities etc ,public even other than wikipedia.--Guglani (talk) ੧੩:੫੬, ੧੯ ਅਗਸਤ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program

I apologize for addressing you in English. I would be grateful if you could translate this message into your language.

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)੦੨:੦੮, ੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.)

As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

For further discussions please use this talk page (if you are uncomfortable writing in English you can also write in your native language there) or point me to the place where your discussion is happening so I can answer there.

--Lydia Pintscher ੧੩:੩੩, ੧੦ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

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Font issues?

Hello all,

Why is it that we are using the "Lohit" and "Saab" fonts as opposed to Raavi? Maybe it's just me, but I've accessed the Punjabi Wikipedia on different operating systems (Windows XP, Vista, 7) and both fonts have unattractive display issues. Lohit displays distortion along the bar above each character, and Saab doesn't space lines out properly.

Raavi works perfectly well and has been included, by default, since Windows Vista. It even displays on XP, though there are some unresolved issues.

So, what gives?

--Ihaveacomputer (talk) ੧੩:੩੩, ੧੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Ah, I just learned that 'reset' defaults to Raavi. Still curious as to why we're using a buggy font as the default, though!

With respect to my previous point about line spacing, it seems to be a problem with Raavi, as well. I was actually referring to the display of the header beneath the "ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਕੀਬੋਰਡ | ਬਰਾਦਰੀ ਪਿੜ" box at the top of each page... Anybody have any ideas?

--Ihaveacomputer (talk) ੧੩:੪੦, ੧੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

I don't know about the issues at an advanced level as I mostly use my mobile. But if I, being an admin, can help fixing, please let me know exactly what? --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੧:੫੭, ੧੩ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Before starting world war 3 because of one word lets have a look at how readers will experience this wiki, I believe that Wikipedia is written for its readers, and when a reader first sees the Punjabi wiki, it really puts you off and makes this Wiki look shabby and unmaintained. One of the biggest problems is this font issue which must be fixed ASAP. I would do this but I'm still new and hardly know how to edit properly, If an admin could kindly make it the deafault font it would be most appriciated. >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੭:੨੦, ੨੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

I've taken the issue up here >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੦:੫੩, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

As I've stated before, I don't know about the font issues at an advanced level but 'll be glad to fix if guided properly; what to do? --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੨:੫੫, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

follow the link https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40473 and add a comment about the problem and vote it as a major problem that needs to be solved ASAP, because of these problems this wiki is hard to read and readers will probably just go to english or some other indic wiki to find what they are looking for because the Punjabi is too hard to interpret. Please help make this wiki look better for readers. >>Zarienah (talk) ੨੦:੩੬, ੨੪ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Main Name of this wiki

Another thing when a person logs onto http://www.wikipedia.org/ under "1000+" this wiki is noted as "ਪੰਜਾਬੀ / پنجابی ", please remove the Shahmukhi word and label it as "ਗੁਰਮੁਖੀ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ" >>Zarienah (talk) ੧੭:੨੦, ੨੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

word ਦਿਹਾਂਤ exists in punjabi or not

Made separate heading for word ਦਿਹਾਂਤ as issue is ਦਿਹਾਂਤ particular word exists in punjabi or not. Revert action by taributtar on {{ਜ ਬ ਸ਼ਖ਼ਸ}} states ਦਿਹਾਂਤ as non-punjabi word as reason in history log of his action . See copy of log reproduced here:- (ਮੌਜੂਦਾ | ਆਖ਼ਰੀ) ੦੫:੦੭, ੧੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ TariButtar (ਗੱਲਬਾਤ | ਯੋਗਦਾਨ | ਪਾਬੰਦੀ ਲਾਓ) . . (੧,੪੭੦ ਬਾਈਟ) (-੪੫) . . (Guglani (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ਦੀ ਸੋਧ 82878 ਨਕਾਰੀ: non-Punjabi word) (ਨਕਾਰੋ).

I have not accepted this and reverted his revision back giving reason simultaneously on sub page ਫਰਮਾ ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ:ਜ ਬ ਸ਼ਖ਼ਸ/doc,asked him to give source for his conviction when he went on discussing again & again on this. He has not given any proof for his personal opinion, and beating the bush in talks held with him on the subject .Even to the question that which source will he accept as standard , if it contained ਦਿਹਾਂਤ as Punjabi word , , he has not answered. I provide link here for talks held on my talk page and talk page of page {{ਜ ਬ ਸ਼ਖ਼ਸ}} which are of relevance and interest in this regard.Title Administrative action revert on talk page of guglani added by taributtar--Guglani (talk) ੧੦:੨੨, ੨੧ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

i've made my point in the just previous msg by me. Why not ਮੌਤ; the most understanding, short and easy to understand word. Why the arguments here for ਦਿਹਾਂਤ? The google search (as you beleive in those) proving that ਮੌਤ is used the most and is know to even non-educated Punjabis. Why to create conflicts about the controversial? We should do so if none other is available but not only other, we have the best (ਮੌਤ), then why conflicts. what ਮੌਤ lacks? ਮੌਤ is the mostly used and even neutral. Please check my previous msg for the rest from me. And Guglani please stop making the wiki a battlefield, please, not any personal opinion just be neutral, the fundamental of the wiki. --tari Buttar (talk) ੧੦:੫੮, ੨੧ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

In all my studies of Punjabi, I have never come across the word ਦਿਹਾਂਤ (maybe its because I haven't studied enough) but I am familiar with ਮੌਤ and I would say its better to use ਮੌਤ Zarienah (talk) ੦੮:੦੦, ੨੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Thanks, Zarienah for your participation in the discussion. Please express your views also on the related Template talk:ਜ ਬ ਸ਼ਖ਼ਸ/doc, for actually which Guglani started the confict and even keeps on making the controversial change ignoring the community that is supporting the word ਮੌਤ. Thanks you! --tari Buttar (talk) ੦੮:੨੬, ੨੨ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

Call for attending Punjabi Wikipedia workshop at Chandigarh!

Hi, I am Subha and work for Wikimedia Foundation's India partner Centre for Interent and Society. We are conducting a workshop on 29 October 2012 at Government college for boys in Chandigarh. Time: 10:30 am. This is an open event and anyone who can read and write Punjabi can attend this for free.

Help needed for translation!

There is a need for translation of a press release which will be published in the local newspapers, can anyone please translate the following text?

Dear Ma'am/Sir,

Greetings!

We are conducting a Punjabi Wikipedia workshop in Chandigarh on 29th September, 2012.

Punjabi Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia with 3000+ articles on different topics! This workshop is open for all and is FREE! Participants will be trained in writing more articles for Punjabi Wikipedia to help promote Punjabi language and conserve information in their mother tongue. All language lovers are invited!

Venue: Government College for Boys, Sector 11, Chandigarh Time: 10:30 a.m Date: 29th September Contact: 08285-566323

Here is the link for the event: https://www.facebook.com/events/198994693566097 (Shortlnk: http:// bit.ly/wikichd1).

Hope to see you there! Please publish this information and help us spread the good word!

Thanks. --Psubhashish (talk) ੦੭:੨੧, ੨੬ ਸਿਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੨ (UTC)

other problem noted with Saab font